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3isa5 (September 4, 2008 at 12:18 am)
And so it goes for Die Fledermaus, Viva Carlos Kleiber.
3isa5 (September 3, 2008 at 11:44 pm)
Not necessarily for the quality of the video, but I think there is no comparison, the version with the Bavarian State orchestra is far better. So alive and so sparkling. So much better. There Kleiber gives his all and gets the following and the result he deserves.
odeon2002 (August 2, 2008 at 7:43 pm)
Kleiber prefered the Bavarians and disowned the Vienna. He complained that they did not understand him really. Of course they play beautiful but not with the expression and risk Kleiber wanted.
frankonero4 (August 1, 2008 at 10:56 am)
For me both versions are excellent, the Bavarian-Version ist softer - the Philharmonic-Version more powerful!
Greetings from Austria!
HuangKaiVun (July 31, 2008 at 6:04 pm)
I vastly prefer the Vien Philharmonic over Bavarian.
They have more expression, are more flexible, more colorful, and are far more responsive to what Kleiber wants.
The Vienna Philharmonic never sounds as if it's just "reading notes".
frankonero4 (July 19, 2008 at 3:23 pm)
Which version do you think is better - Bavarian State Orechestra or Vien Philharmonics?
nickfox2 (July 10, 2008 at 3:17 am)
A quote from Albrecht Mayer, the solo oboe of the Berlin Philharmonic, that might be worth considering, abine25: "We don't need a conductor to beat time and give cues...we need him to inspire us..." Kleiber is conducting the MUSIC, not the beats and cues.
psalmtone (July 4, 2008 at 1:46 pm)
The video is a bit out of sync. And the real question is: how do you conduct an orchestra that doesn't need one? You conduct precisely what you want to bring out of an already great texture...btw it also helps that they had rehearsed two weeks! on music they already know like the back of their hand.
iwanabana (June 27, 2008 at 8:05 am)
he's not even conducting at some points lol
abine25 (June 23, 2008 at 1:58 pm)
his conducting is so hard to follow, imagine being in the orchestra |
