speccwolf (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I have a simple guilding permaculture setup and it works great, its messy and i take the time to control it. Ive got chooks in different areas and casually release them to fertilize and reduce infection to plants. The thing is to start it cost me bucketloads, and for a family of 5 i have enough veges on my half acre lot for at least 10 more families, so i give them away. As much as im producing and with seasons, i still want to make more. It works, but it isnt mass producing, like agriculture.

reallynicerecordings (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Overpopulation has tons to do with our lifestyles. Five people living at Bushmen standards will have a much smaller environmental impact than five people living at American standards. Check your lifestyle.

reallynicerecordings (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Population control is a matter of improving our social incentives. The more people who understand that popping out babies left and right is harming both the human community and the larger community of life, the less people will tend to make large families. New majority social incentives. Better taboos. That would curtail population better than anything I can think of. Call out anybody who makes large families as selfish and uncaring. Chide and shun. :-)

academianon (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Absolutely. Very well said. I could not agree more, I am definitely on the same page my friend. People need to look into these things. See the corruption, it is astonishing and I personally will not tolerate it anymore. Peace to you.

jbryant13 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I'll tell you who - the Rockefellers of the world. Google "Kissinger Report" and read how population control of 3rd world countries in order to allow corporations to exploit their natural resources has been official US policy since 1974. Don't believe it ? Listen to the "man" himself watch?v=ClqUcScwnn8 watch?v=5QKjHuSOAmw Over population is the greatest lie ever perpetrated on mankind using junk "science" and half baked philosophies to justify these cretins plans for world domination.

Enviroman101 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Anyone doing a 100% of their food from their land? I think I could do maybe 10%. Anyway just starting to learn. Its true eh? Even the arguements here are polite.lol

academianon (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I just hope people are careful when they talk about "population control" .. who sets the limits on that... Everything else in this video is super.

djpoppyt (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

People are mean to others on youtube because there is no physical connection and not many consequences. All you can do is argue back, there is no fear of an aggressive confrontation. Yes, is it very petty, but if there are no repercussions there is no inhibition. Unless of course you actually care about the impact you have on others. In that case you wouldn't be bickering, you would be offering your views in a non-arrogant manner. I'm not pointing fingers I'm offering somewhat of a solution. 8)

AGooglyMoogly (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Gosh, even the arguments here are civilised and neatly rounded up with replies to the one comment! It's Permaculture's good energies radiating out through the web and making us all strive to solve an eternally elusive question: 'Why can't we all just get along?' Done right, Permaculture can supply everyone with enough food, comfort and emotional well-being using overunity (Look it up kids!) to bring health and beauty back to the environment and our minds. Custodianship, not ownership!

quercusrobur2002 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Hi meloearth, just been reading through this thread, normally i don't get involved in this kind of exchange, and whilst I agree that kettlebellsguide has been somewhat offensive in their language towards you, it might be helpful to reflect on some of your own comments earlier in the thread when asking your above question. I found some of your comments about permaculture quite rude, uninformed and dismissive, and can understand if not condone why this has upset others. best wishes to you.