PeteRosenburg (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Why don't you cram your faggot face deep into your dirty asshole, so we dont have to hear your arrogant, egotistical douchebaggary. You know nothing, so don't say anything.

mag994 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@ :40 Hey it's Gary Coleman's car!

bustermk2 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

So it can go 40 miles on electric. I assume that is the maximum battery range without headlights, aircon, etc. I am betting that you would have to go real slow to get that 40 miles as well.

diggingforgold (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

The EV1 was lighter, more aerodynamic, and cost more than twice the expected price of the Volt. It didn't have to appeal to the masses, only a few environmentalists. With +$4/gal gas prices, people are keeping their options open, EVs finally have a chance. At the very least, I would think EV enthusiasts would be applauding GM so they can be the guinea pigs for Li-ion, mass produce it, and get it to come down in price so you guys have something for when your packs eventually need replacement.

diggingforgold (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Reuters recently quoted Lutz saying that their engineers have "routinely had it to the high 30s, low 40s and they go up hills with it and everything". And obviously AC will reduce range, it reduces range on other EVs as well. People need to remember that GM is hoping to make this an *affordable* EV. Benchmarking the Volt to the EV1 is unfair, since each EV1 cost GM $80,000 and they never saw a penny of profit from it. GM hopes to sell the Volt for less than half that, and make a profit.

diggingforgold (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

The Volt is equipped with a 16kWh Li-ion pack (which is almost the same capacity as the 1st generation EV1, which was a 18kWh LA pack), and GM is limiting charges to 30% to 80% (8kWh brings the 40-mile AER) to prolong battery life. 2nd generation EV1s had 26kWh capacity (using NiMH), which gave the driver about 160 miles. GM is focusing on cost, which means to make it affordable, they have to use smaller packs. But as the batteries come down in price, we should see more range in future Volts.

Dilekz (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Well it is obvious that it isn't perfect yet.. i see the white cloud getting invisible afther the car ... You wouldn't get that with an aptera car.

jeffgilbertwwj (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

They use a computer at first. Then after they've designed the model they check everything out in a wind tunnel to make sure their calculations are correct. Same thing with crash testing. The computers save time in the development process...but they still have to test real vehicles.

Dilekz (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

They still use a wind tunnel to test the car ?? :) fucking oldfasioned.. use a Computer..

Dilekz (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Uhm, the car was a bit expensive to make... so that's why.