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donnalvx (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Do you know , FACE IS THE INDEX OF MIND not the body. We can do some excercise and strengthen our skin and muscles but can we reallly bring back our INNOCENT face?
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inkstersco (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I think what's more likely is that the child fills the berth of a dead non-parent.
inkstersco (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
No. The goal of his movement is to achieve rejuvenation, whilst allowing the ageing process to continue. If, at any point, he talks about "ending ageing", he is not referring to a true halt to the ageing process, but to periodical rejuvenation, that renders the ageing process negligible: Hence "Strategies for Engineered Negligible Senescence".
inkstersco (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
N.Sel. is the structuring force behind modern organisms. In later years of life, one is further from NS's zone of influence(the historical average moment of reproduction, age 19 or whatever). The historical influence of NS fades. So our structure fails. But the time-age of a single cell is not crucial here. The fact is, when a cell divides, the daughter cells get some of the physical imperfections of the parent cells(e.g. indigestible junk). And so there's a lifelong buildup of cell damage.
stevekap8 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I see. And yet I'm certain that I read that the goal of this "movement" was to END the aging process.
stevekap8 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I think this really gets at my point. Why would one type of cell age over th lifetime of the organism that it is a part of, and a single cell organism not age.
I think the answer is the envirenment that the stomatic cell finds itself in. It is surounded by other cell, and infulenced by them. This we call development, when we like the result, and age, when we don't.
inkstersco (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
But this is another matter. SENS does not attempt to interfere with that aging process. To do so is called the "gerontology approach". The engineering approach is to get right in there and artificially restore the state youth, regardless of how aging initially happened. It's matter of tissue repair. Any gerontologist will tell you that the _difference itself_ between a young and old man exists at a cellular level. This in turn, impairs tissue function, which in turn leads to organ failure.
inkstersco (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I thought you meant the reproduction of the individual.
There's the age of the cell(time-since-division), and then there's the degree of imperfection in the cell that distuinguishes it from a younger guy's cells. When the other bloke referred to "aging cells" he was no doubt referring to the damage that has been passed on from cell to cell during the lifespan of the organism.
inkstersco (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
usual tactic is to ban and censor comments
Usual tactic, eh? Even though I've never done it, ever? Never. So, not a usual tactic.
Your tactic, on the other hand, isn't even much of a tactic.
You accused SENS of being a for-profit scam.
This is demonstrably false
You accused de Grey of having a fake PhD
This is demonstrably false
You said de Grey had no peer-reviewed work
This couldnt be further from the truth.
As always, I had to do your homework for you *after the accusation.
stevekap8 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Also, inksterco, I'd like to point out again that your usual tactic, in the face of contrary opinion, is to ban an censor comments. It is important to get that out, as we are in a forum in which you are powerless to do so. |