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sk8nruff (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Now that, I do agree with, if only partially. Max von Egmond once told me that singing earlier music doesn't require different technique, it requires MORE technique. Vibrato however, is still just an ornament and too much of a good thing ruins it's meaning, impact, and special qualities. Sort of like a sugar over-dose...just before you clutch your heart in pain.
sk8nruff (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
And we also have tremolo stops on organs, also german, among others. I highly doubt it would've been employed on EVERY note, also if you're supporting well straight tone isn't hard, or damaging, and it can be varied. Unfortunately post Garcian singing is all people go by these days. Intesifiers don't belong on unimportant notes (consonances, weak beats, weak sylables) and most singers today singing pre-Gracian composed music haven't the slightest clue about it.
crazymezzo09 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Part 2 of the reply:
What we should change when we sing music from different eras is the style, not the singing technique. And vibrato is part of a healthy singing technique (not only in my opinion).
And yes, Bernarda Fink's coloratura is great plus she is a highly emotional singer!
crazymezzo09 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I don't, because that's an unnatural way of singing. Even in Baroque times nobody sang without vibrato; because when you support well, the vibrato comes naturally. We have many sources in German who tell us that there was a so-called "angenehmes Zittern der Stimme" while people were singing, which could be translated with "pleasant trembling of the voice" (I'm not sure if this is the perfect transl.). With this people didn't mean anything else than what we nowadays call "vibrato".
crazymezzo09 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I was looking for it too, but I couldn't find out anything except for concerts this Salve Regina (E flat Major) was performed at.
The only thing I can tell you is that german Carus-Verlag at least has the Hasse Salve Regina in A major. The No. is: 40.967/03.
sk8nruff (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I'm advocating straight tone singing so that listeners can hear the difference between intentional vibrato and trills, battements, flattement, etc. Sadly most singers put vibrato on the ends of notes at the ends of phrases, among other places where there shouldn't be an intensifier. It is, afterall, an ornament. I'm always envious of singers because they can actually declaim something with their instrument, but most modern singers aren't taught that. I will say her coloratura is great, though.
crazymezzo09 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Sorry, but I don't hear the vibrato you're talking about.
And I think Bernarda Fink is one of the best mezzos (or like kikivolauvent says if not the best... Thanks for that!!!) we have at the moment!
3konno (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I really love Hasse's work; great piece
llum82 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Where I can get the scores?
sk8nruff (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Hasse was the most expensive composer to hire for opera, or sacred music...so why is such fantastic music sung being sung by someone who sounds like they're tied to a paint can shaker? It's phrased decently, now if she'd only vary/ intelligently use that vibrato... |
